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important signs today. speaker, house speaker john boehner met with president obama at the white house today. we don't know how long they met or exactly what they talked about, but the white house says lines of communication are open and face-to-face meeting is on important. at the same time republicans say they will accept the demands for higher taxes on the wealthy if it goes along with spending cuts entitlements like medicare and social security. listen.... >> a lot of people are putting forth a theory. i think it has merit where you give the president 2% increase he is talking about on the top 2 percent. i am beginning to believe that is the best route for us to take. >> reporter: many other republicans, of course, standing firm against any tax increase. they could give the speaker a hard time if he tries to pass the kind of legislation corker was talking about there. >> and how are the democrats reacting to accept the higher tax rates? >> reporter: they are happy to see movement was made toward the president's position but speaker boehner has not embraced the it. it could be what they t
a week after the election. obama won the white house. but gays and lesbians lost the right to marry in california. >> we try to figure out what to do next. then we thought about the idea of a possible legal challenge to proposition eight. and serendipitously a friend of my wife's came by the table. >> reporter: the friend suggested they would find an ally in her former brother-in-law, who turned out to be ted olson, a towering figure in the conservative legal movement. so that stunned you, right? >> yes, more than stunned me. it stunned me, but i said if this is true, this is the home run of all times. i mean, the idea that ted olson, this arch conservative, the solicitor general for george bush, who had argued bush v. gore, and basically put me in bed for a couple of days, i was so depressed after bush v. gore, was interested in gay rights. i thought, let's check it out. >> reporter: didn't you have any doubts about ted olson? >> you know, they say that politics makes strange bedfellows. well, you don't have a stranger bedfellow than me and ted olson. >> i was skeptical, absolutely
oath: the obama white house and the supreme court." so what exactly does he mean? you've studied justice scalia. you have studied the law. when he talks about the reduction to the absurd. >> well, it's actually a very interesting controversy that may be changing before our very eyes, wolf. because historically one of the grounds that congress can pass a law is they say, we morally disapprove. moral disapproval is not an aprop pree grounds for a government action but over time the court has said certain kinds of moral disapproval is no longer allowed. you can't simply disapprove of blacks and whites going to school together and pass a law. the question now is, is moral disapproval of homosexuality a legitimate ground for the government doing anything? that's really one of the main issues in this case coming out. >> that's his argument, that that's why he's opposed to it? is that what you're saying? >> well, what he's saying is that the legislature, whether it's a state legislature or congress can say we morally disapprove of homosexuality, thus we will say they can't get married t
obama lights the national christmas tree outside the white house. house speaker john boehner said today that he's still waiting for a response from the white house on the g.o.p. deficit reduction proposal. they spoke to reporters in the capitol for about 10 minutes. >> good morning everyone. you know, this week, we made a good faith offer to avert the fiscal crisis and that offer included significant spending cuts and reforms and included additional revenue. and frankly, it was the balanced approach that the president's been asking for. now we need a response from the white house. we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves. our targets and framework are things that we can all agree on. and it's exactly how we approached our discussions in the biden group, my discussions at the white house a year and a half ago and for that matter, in the joint select committee. and if the president doesn't agree with our proposal and our outline, i think he's got an obligation to send one to the congress. and a plan that can pass both chambers of congress. if you look at the plans that the white hou
deal is reached, the white house saying that president obama met with republican house speaker boehner on ways to overcome their differences. steve is live for us in washington, with more on this. steve? >>reporter: the house speaker went for a white house for a one-on-one chat, the first time they have sat down without other leaders and it could represent an important step toward avoiding the fiscal cliff. the last time the 39 and the speaker met was with other members of congress november 15. they talked wednesday last week but that was a conversation by telephone. now they have sat down face to face. this top level meeting is important in any negotiating process in washington, dc. the fact they met on a sunday underscores the urgency. the white house confirmed the talks were held to discuss efforts to resolve the fiscal cliff and lines of communication remain open. the white house beating is the same day republicans appeared to be moving closer to the president's position on raising taxes for the wealthy. a senator appeared on fox news sunday along with a democrat schumer. >> the gr
and president obama met at the white house yesterday. both released statements basically they wouldn't say anything, but that "the lines of communication remain open." can we hope for a deal any time soon? cory booker, the mayor of newark, new jersey. nice to have you with us. >> very nice to be here. >> not part of the fiscal cliff discussions, apparently downo the two of them. what happens to your city if we go over the fiscal cliff? >> it's a real challenge for people all over my state, frankly. a lot of families in this tough economic time, seeing them having $2,000 or more on average of expenses of not enjoying tax cuts, will make a real impact. people barely making mortgage payments, falling behind on car payments this will be a difficult thing. and that will have a multiplier affect. people who don't have extra money to spend hurt the stores that that would be shopping in, the food they would be buying, so on, so forth this is a time we can't have a government that is especially republicans, holding hostage all of this country. 98% of our country. >> a negotiation. so i wouldn't --
echoing mitt romney that he's in la jolla and barack obama is in the white house because obama depended on people who were dependent on government. it is just the handout, the takers are the ones who elected barack obama. >> right. the gifts argument. i think there has been a split on the language of this, whether or not the actual ideals of it. the language, split since romney lost and made his little gifts comment after the election. >> bill: that obama won by handing out gifts to the constituencies. >> minorities, women. just gave them -- best example is gave women contraception for their votes. that's potentially -- basically what they said. sununu yesterday or i guess it was tuesday night said that he said the same thing. he was like if you look at this, it wasn't about message. we didn't lose because of message. we lost because -- >> bill: didn't lose because they had a lousy candidate. >> we lost because of the hold-in to obama and what they can give him. >> bill: they're just in denial, right? >> wh
, president obama, house speaker john boehner, met face to face at the white house today for the first time in more than three weeks. we do not have any details about today's conversations but reps on both sides say the lines of communication remain open. the two men last met on november 16th. also today, another republican senator announced his support for raising tax rates on wealthy americans. tennessee senator bob corker says if the gop agrees to the wealthy tax hike, republicans would be better positioned to negotiate for bigger spending cuts on social security and medicare. >> there is a growing group of folks that are looking at this and realizing that we don't have a lot of cards as it relates to the tax issue before year-end. a lot of people are putting forth a theory and i think it has merit where you give the president the 2% increase that he's talking about, the rate increase on the top 2%. and all of a sudden, the shift goes back to entitlements. and all of a sudden, once you give him the rate on the top 2%, it's actually much lesser tax increase than what he's been talking abo
for generations to come, it's going to be difficult for me to oppose higher rates for the rich." president obama and speaker boehner spoke by phone yesterday for the first time in a week. white house press secretary jay carney i find very interesting refused to characterize the conversation. let's bring in congressman chris van hollen of maryland tonight. good to have you with us. >> always good to when with you. >> you bet. are democrats united on this rate issue? we keep hearing it. now that boehner is starting to move a little bit and say that the money is going to come from the wealthy, yet he hasn't identified these reductions, where do democrats stand on rates? is that the bottom line? the rates have to go up? >> the rates have to two up, ed. it's a matter of simple math, as the president has said. which is why in the house of representatives the democrats filed what's called a discharge petition that would require the speaker to bring to the floor of the house the senate bill, the senate democratic bill that immediately would extend tax relief to all middle income taxpayers and would ask
, president obama and house speaker john boehner sat down at the white house yesterday. they talked. so let's bring in brianna keilarment she is live in washington. so congress is scheduled to break for the holidays later this week. where do we go from here? how are these talks? >> we don't know. that's the thing. we know they spoke. in fact, it's somewhat remarkable that both the white house and speaker boehner's office put out statements simply saying that the two men had spoken. the lines of communication are open. and they were the same verbatim. that is something you can look at as some progress, perhaps. certainly it is promising may be the better way to put it. there is coordination there. they seem to be talking in good faith, trying to keep, i guess, their cards very close to the vest. and that is something that maybe is seen as promising. again, there is no word on actual progress on the fact that they're closer to a deal. and officially at this point, house republicans are still unwilling to bend to the president's demand that those income tax rates for wealthier americans increa
campaign. with obama in the white house for another four years, republicans are looking for something much smaller. even a down payment on medicare. that they can still call victory. is that enough on entitlements, ed o'keefe? >> it might be in the short-term. i agree with a.b. and i agree with erskine bowles that eventually there's going to be longer-term discussions about this if they want to get serious about budget cuts. >>> this is is a president who has an appetite for spending cuts. he has talked about it throughout his presidency. he hasn't had a chance just yet. this may be his opportunity to do so and say look, i got taxes, but i also gave you spending cuts and we got serious about fixing this problem. if can he do that, i think he himself could declare victory. the question is whether more liberal members of the house and even of the senate, would go along with some kind of plan and that's why i think republicans may be right. minimal changes for now. probably a good thing. whether or not it happens long-term remains to be seen. >> a.b. stoddard of the hill, ed o'keefe from the
. president obama, house speaker john boehner met face-to-face at the white house today to try to prevent the fiscal cliff now just 23 days away. we don't have any details on their conversations, but reps for both sides say the lines of communication remain open. meanwhile, at least four republican senators now support a tax hike on wealthy americans. here is senator tom coburn of oklahoma. >> the fact is we're spending money that we don't have on things we don't absolutely need, and there's no grown-ups in washington that will say time-out, stop the politics, let's have a compromise rather than continue to play the game through the press and hurt the country. >> more on this story in just a few minutes with our senior political analyst, david gergen. >>> a half million dollars, that's the bond set today by a judge near dallas for cowboys nose tackle josh brent. he was behind the wheel in a car accident this weekend that killed teammate jerry brown, jr. police believe brent was drunk when he flipped his mercedes yesterday morning. >>> we have an update to last week's tragedy in kansas cit
cliff talks. president obama and john boehner met face-to-face at the white house to try to prevent the fiscal cliff. now just 23 days away. we don't have any details on their conversations, but reps for both sides say the lines of communication remain open. at least four republican senators suprt a tax hike on wealthy americans. >> what we have done is spent ourselves into a hole and we're not going to raise taxes and borrow money and get out of it. so will i accept a tax increase as a part of a deal to actually solve our problems? yes. >> president obama wants republicans to agree to the wealthy tax hike before any negotiations about spending cuts begin. >>> just after midnight gay couples living in washington state made history joining in the first legal same-sex marriages in the state. the governor signed the voter approved referendum into law on wednesday. >>> mexican authorities say they have found the wreckage of a small plane believed carrying mexican american singer jenny rivera and six others. the plane had been missing since early this morning. reportedly lost contact wit
. >>> standoff on the fiscal cliff. house speaker boehner meeting with president obama at the white house. but what will it take to get a compromise deal? republican senator john thune will be our guest host for the hour. >> plus starwood hotel ceo frits van paaschen on the effects of the fiscal cliff and avoiding the european recovery model. >> we know big ben. >> parliament. >> the third hour of "squawk box" begins right now. >>> welcome back to "squawk box" here on cnbc. first in business worldwide i'm joe kernen along with becky quick. andrew ross sorkin is off today. we have a big lineup this hour. sitting in andrew's seat our guest host, senator john thune. he is with us for the hour to talk about the fiscal cliff. talk about jobs. and a lot more. we're also going to speak to the president of telemundo media. emilio row mano. we're going to convene an economic summit to tackle america's debt crisis and outline growth scenarios for 2013. in addition to solving our budget problems and the fiscal cliff, we're also going to figure out how it affects the hotel industry with starwood's ho
the democratic party in the home of president obama. he was accompanied by this picture of him taken at the white house with his voter registration form. i'm joined by former florida republican governor democrat charlie crist. governor, i always will call you governor, it may be appropriate some day, but it's an honor to have you on this show. i have to hit you up front with a "hardball" question. peter feeman, who is now and still your republican national committeeman, he said you sat at his table not too long ago, his breakfast table, and you said ima ronald reagan republican. were you then, are you now so changed that that's not true? >> i think the party's changed is what's really happened. i think reagan is a great example. my friend jeb bush not long ago, in fact, said that ronald reagan probably would not be successful in today's republican party. that tells you everything you need to know. and i really think it's the leadership of the party more than the membership. but what's happened is on issue after issue, chris, and you know this better than i do, whether it's immigration, education,
-wing hypocrites! >> stephanie: newsletter blasts obama for having nbc host despite her visit to the bush white house. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: president obama has met with msnbc host along with other progressives -- was i invited no. can anyone even imagine if fox news had stopped by the bush white house to discuss policy? they would have been rightly outraged. [ wah wah ] >> rush limbaugh sat in george bush senior's box during the convention. >> stephanie: an influential group of conservative radio hosts including laura ingraham. >> imagine if we had down that. [ mocking whining ] >> to the right. >> >> stephanie: the "stephanie miller show" has no information as to whether laura ingraham likes her hair pulled during sex. if she does it's to the right. all right [ inaudible ] go ahead. >> caller: our president is doing so bad, but yet apple wants to move the factory here. >> stephanie: exactly right. unemployment dropped to the lowest in four years. >> caller: yeah, so i mean these guys are all hot wind. they are trying to push the statute of liberty over the cliff, an
the white house learned during the first term is that there are some things that work for obama and some things that don't. sitting down at a table with john boehner as essentially equals did not turn out as well as they might have hoped with the debt ceiling talks in 2011. but what did work was that winter when the president went to the country and argued for extending the payroll tax holiday and developed pressure outside of washington, he was a lot more successful. so they have two goals here. one is to keep the pressure coming from outside the beltway and the second is to make sure that this is not a negotiation between the president and boehner, that they want the president essentially floating above this. >> robert, when we talk and i know you had a chance to hear what congresswoman black will to say about trying to find the right balance here, while a majority of americans, say they go completely support raising taxes on wealthier americans, there is also a majority support that says we don't want to see earned benefits messed with, we don't want to see the medicare eligibility ag
for president obama. he says that the white house is taking a big risk with its my way or the highway negotiations on the fiscal cliff. now you can look at it. >> this president has a chance, as he did in 09 to come in and say i'm going to sit down and we're going to be bipartisan. we are going to put the country first. i'm going to write or he can write a stimulus package and ram it through on red. he guarantees a permanent war, because everybody on the right at every level sooner or later is going to get particular sick of it. martha: is he right? let's talk to brit hume, fox news senior political analyst. good morning to you. is he right about that if the president doesn't do some negotiating, giving in a little bit on this that he's risks a permanent war on capitol hill. >> reporter: i think there will be a permanent war over the issues of taxation and spending regardless of what happens in this immediate negotiation to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff and the reason is this. for a longtime, martha, we were able to increase entitlement benefits, keep taxes relatively low, because
that president obama doesn't do regularly. and that is take a lot of questions from the white house press corp. that is where you get stronger and better answers, sometimes deeper answers to questions that america deserves to know. not -- the problem for president obama is that who he talked to yesterday is a narrow slice of the audience. more people know about that now than would have ever seen it on that other network. he needs broaden out and talk to and try to persuade people that are not just on the left. >> brian: you remember you invited charles charles and other conservatives before he actually took office? >> remember, they were charmed and they said, huh, maybe this is going to go better than we thought. and then they were bitterly disappointed. >> steve: let's talk a little bit about this. the congressman from in texas, steve forbes out yesterday talking about look, we've got to do something about taxes. the president is even talking a little bit about it. we need a flat tax rather than raising taxes. here is a little snippet of congressman gilbert. listen. >> when you hear fair sha
perplexed. why world the white house consider closing president obama's official 1-20 january 20th swearing in to a press pool? what's this all about? >> the presidential inaugural committee put out a list this year this week that described the inauguration ceremony, formal one, official one which takes place on sunday as being private. and when press people ask about what the private meant, they said a decision had not been made yet on coverage for that ceremony. that's not the big public one that takes place on monday the 21st but the official one on sunday. i don't understand why there is any discussion. if the president's inauguration official inauguration is not a public event, what is? i was covering the white house in 1985 when the same situation came up with president reagan. his big ceremony was on monday but he was privately sworn in on sunday. there was a full press pool in there to see that and record it, including photographers. and i hope that this white house decides to follow that same course. >> okay. susan page, your many followers are also probably chiming in as well with
after mr. obama sent an offer to mr. boehner tuesday. before boehner took to the house floor to criticize the president. >> the longer the white house ze slow walks this process the closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. >> reporter: mr. obama's new proposal lowered his request for tax revenue from $1.6 trillion in ten years to $1.4 trillion.trillion on tuesday the white house threw corporate tax reform into the mix, adding it to the already agreed upon push next year for reform of individual tax rates.dismisse boehner's described it as unrealistic and said the tax revenue was "a red herring." the top senate democrat doubted a fiscal cliff deal would be l cli wrapped in time for christmas. >> i think it's going to be extremely difficult to get it done before christmas. >> reporter: speaker boehner is meeting at this hour with house republicans. despite all the gloom the president said he remains confident a fiscal cliff deal will get done. charlie and norah? >> major garrett thank you. nancy pelosi leads the democratseads in the house of representativ
a white house spokesman said that president obama has been opposed to right to work laws for a very long time. and that the strength of autoworkers in michigan is proof of how the unions help to build the economy and strengthen the middle class. right to work laws make it illegal for unions to automatically deduct dues from payrolls and people who support the law say that workers shouldn't have to be part of a union if they don't want to. but what really happens is nonunion workers benefit from a unionized workplace without having to financially contribute. ultimately, the laws end up cutting into union financing and weakening their bargaining power. we're back with more steph after the break. stay with us! a >>> she get's the comedians laughing... >>>that hilarious. >>>and the thinkers thinking. joy>>>okay so. there's wiggle room in the ten commandments is what you're telling me? >>she's joy behar. joy>>>and the best part is that current will let me say anything. what the hell were they thinking? >>>> only on current tv. brought to
. the white house still demanding and president obama said this yesterday when he was in michigan, that the tax rates for the first $250,000 of income be preserved and then not be preserved, let the tax rates for more than that, earnings more than that, expire. and right now, house republicans are holding fast to their position, which is, no, let all of the tax cuts be preserved at the end of the year. at this point, as i said, we don't have details. and there's a lot more to be worked out even than on the tax rates, how would you tackle entitlement reform, what kind of spending cuts would we see, and also, what kind of mechanism would you put in place of that determined. and at this point, ted, i will tell you, i think it could be worse. they could not be talking at all, but i don't think it's to the point, certainly, where you kind of would exhale. there is no deal. >> and really, technically, they have until the end of the year, but the actual timeline is a lot shorter. >> reporter: that's right. and there are a couple of things. congress is supposed to leave town after the end
cuts, and the obama people would say they have already given time to raise revenue. host: of the white house proposal on domestic spending -- 1-year deferral of sequestration and a multi-share stimulus package. from twitter, what do you consider domestic spending? is spending and the structure spending or investment in our future? guest: i would call it spending in the short term. in the long term, it creates jobs, and it avoids safety expenses, such as when the bridge collapse in minnesota 3 or four years ago. that is the thing about government programs. if you plan reductions, it seems to be more cost-effective. there is more certainty in the projection of when the budget will shrink, but when it is started, there can be arbitrary cuts in some of that can be wasteful. host: ruby. north carolina. democratic caller. caller: yes, i have a question. unemployment, the extension is set to expire on december 29. what is the likelihood of that been extended? guest: that is a good question. we have headed for two years. republicans tend to be skeptical because there is a feeling that it disco
: associated press says the white house is signalling president obama is willing to let the country go over the cliff. this is a choice of the republican party if they are willing to do higher rates on the country, there is a lot to talk about, if they are not, they will push us over the cliff. tim geithner said there is no prospect in an agreement that doesn't include the tax rate going up on the top 2% of americans. he said we are not prepared to have the american economy held hostage to periodic threats. >> there you go. >> stephanie: and he pointed out, taxes were the centerpiece of the presidential campaign. he ran on a pledge to repeal these tax cuts. 60% of voters backed obama's reelection, a new poll suggests that -- >> including republicans. >> stephanie: yeah, he said republicans would take the bulk of the blame if this happens. i think we're in a strong position. >> i do too. >> stephanie: every time they talk on tv it's like lost lost lost lost you lost. this is the best thing chris, i have read thus far on this. [ ♪ patriotic music ♪ ] >> stephanie: fi
's probably the best way to describe the fiscal talks between president obama and house speaker john boehner. with christmas less than two weeks away, the white house is faced with the same key question. can boehner deliver the votes for whatever deal they agree on? >> i remain optimistic and i'm pretty confident that republicans would not hold middle class taxes hostage to try to protect tax cuts for high income individuals. >> but with time running out, neither side seems to have budged very far from the original proposal. the only good news about what happened in the past 24 hours, they are not publicly trashing each other's proposals. on monday the white house sent boehner a counteroffer which at beast can be incremental movement. almost on the details of the offer are under wraps. the $1.6 trillion in tax revenue the president was demanding can come down to slightly under 1.4 trillion. it's still $600 billion higher than the republican position. in a signal to the president in his conference, basically said the president's counteroffer was uncut. >> where are the president's spending cu
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that the full interview with president obama and the first lady will air on friday on "20/20" and "nightline." a cool tradition that barbara gets to sit down in the white house during the holidays and talk to both. certainly no shortage of topics as 2012 winds down. >> but yet the platform is not like she gets extended time for it. "20/20" is still the same amount of time, even though topics are -- >> we'll be back. stay with us. >>> well, this is big. there's a potential breakthrough for millions of people suffering with depression. >> it's not a pill. it's actually an iv treatment and patients who tested it are showing remarkable progress. abc's chief health and medical editor dr. richard besser has more. >> reporter: a lifetime of depression. lifting in just a few minutes. dennis, suffering for years, had tried pretty much every antidepressant on the market. no response. have you tried treatments? >> they've never helped me at all. >> reporter: but at the national institutes for health, they're trying out a whole new class of antidepressant, drugs that may offer a new path to fighting dep
that just before president obama took effect, white house figures show the federal budget was $2.9 trillion. next year's estimate is going to be $3.8 trillion. this is a 31% increase in spending in just four years. we have someone as the president, our great president, who is hung up on taxing and spending. what we need is a house of representatives that's hung up on jobs and job creation. the american product. entrepreneurship. creativity. competition with the world. the next new great ideas. not that will come from this body but from the creativity of the american people. this is what republicans are trying to keep alive in our country. the idea of self-reliance and working hard and taking care of people that are not just in your house but are in your neighborhood. your cities. our states, the vibrancy of our country. and we are headed over the fiscal cliff after four years of leadership from this president who is running, running directly to the fiscal cliff. has even said, and secretary of treasury said, we don't mind jumping off this cliff. mr. speaker, we should not be having that kin
obama and john boehner met yesterday afternoon at the white house to avert the so-called fiscal cliff. their first meeting in 23 days. both sides are not saying what if any progress were made. washington has 22 days left to me -- make a deal. "the post" had lined, "a deal is a vital." what are you willing to sacrifice to avert the so-called this clip? for republicans, 202-585-3881. for democrats, 202-585-3880. for independents, 202-585-3882. remember, also, send us it twitter message, the analysis is that americans need to embrace sacrifice again. he says that any outcome of this is going to require sacrifice and pain from the american public. in the peace he writes that the problem is not washington, that it is us. no longer are we willing to pay for the things that we know that we need. boaters that demand something for nothing will demand otherwise. politicians who fear for their jobs will comply. we want to turn to all of you and ask you, what are you willing to sacrifice? are you willing to change medicare and social security as republicans say is needed? are you willing to incre
me. >> john boehner has sent president obama a counterour. a spokesman for house speaker boehner declined to share details of the offer but said the proposal would solve our looming debt crisis and create american jobs. we're still waiting for the white house to identify what spending cuts the white house will make and the longer the white house slow walk this is policy the close we get to fiscal cliff. we'll hear what senate leaders had to say today they spoke for 15 minutes at the capitol. >> it's time to see if the president is willing to make any cuts at all and whether he's willing to lead his party in making an agreement with us. the senate democrats have ruled out any spend regular duckses at all. if you look at the problem we have, it's overwhelmingly that we spend too much, we spent our time and you all have written about it because so much of the discussion has been about it, talking about increasing taxes on the top two rates. even if you did that it would provide enough money to run the government for eight days. clearly that doesn't have anything to do with getting
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." >>> joining me today, msnbc contributor and political editor and white house correspondent for the "huffington post," sam stein holding it down stag style. jane mayer from "the new yorker" is here. bbc world news america anchor and former traveling press secretary for the obama campaign jen socky. this is the speed of the fiscal cliff negotiations. blink and you just might miss exactly nothing. while talks between speaker boehner and president obama over the past three days have been shrouded in secrecy, we've learned there have been two offers put on the table. the white house sent boehner a proposal on monday calling for $1.4 trillion in tax revenue, $200 billion less than the original offer. might that seal the deal? >> the president's called for $1.4 trillion worth of revenue. that cannot pass the house or the senate. >> okay then. the speaker's office responded with a deal of its own. yesterday it included precisely the same amount of revenue from the original proposal, $800 billion, which indicates there may have been concessions else where. a democratic source close to the white house t
the white house out there, you know, publicly putting pressure on republicans by sending obama, for example, to michigan but gamt trying to negotiate behind the scenes with boehner. and it's a two-prong strategy that i think carries real risk. >> it's kind of negotiation 101. i mean, the most basic kind of negotiation, you know, don't show your hand if you don't have to. i'm wondering, matt, is part of this psychological, even real in terms of momentum, democrats feel they have the upper hand and so they don't need to do anything right now. >> can we just take a moment and recognize it's december 10th, december 11th and people are out on the road making politics about this and occasionally meeting and talking about maybe exchanging ideas? this is kind of a big deal, you know? in this same way that passing a buck -- we were told that for a long time. >> for a long time. if there was any kind of seriousness of purpose, and i'm not pointing out either party, you know, one over the other but neither is having a seriousness of purpose about passing budget, about sitting down and talking about th
this could be challenging for president obama, but at this point in time they're really looking at all the options and basically making the case reminding people that, look, this is still illegal under federal law. craig. >> what were the white house's options here, kristen? >> reporter: they have a couple options. one might be taking legal action against low-level offenders and then trying to make the case that ultimately federal law trumps state law. another option might be going straight at the state level and basically saying they don't have authority to regulation taxes and other initiatives when it comes to marijuana. craig. >> we look ahead to the president's inauguration next month. politico tweeting a few hours ago that president obama will accept unlimited corporate donations for his inauguration in january. that's a departure from four years ago. what's behind the change? >> reporter: it is a departure. the white house weighed in as well. we're not taking money from super-pacs or anything like that, but they don't want to tap back into their donors. they feel their donors ar
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